Comments on: The London Train Platform Experience http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/2009/09/01/the-london-train-platform-experience/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:35:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Nigel Wear http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/2009/09/01/the-london-train-platform-experience/#comment-849 Nigel Wear Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:05:14 +0000 http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/?p=683#comment-849 God can't heal emotional pain if people (e.g my daughter's mother) are purposedly evil in preventing me enjoying her for years. God cannot heal me. I have no doubt He heals others who repent and ask. But if there is nothing to repent and it is another's evil that preoccupies me and stops me from going forward then where am I left. Pray for what? To get back the years with my daughter taken from me forever? Pray to forget my daughter? Blasphemy against my conscience. Her mother blasphemed her deepest conscience and continues to every minute of the day so I cannot forgive her. Ask and it shall be given? Not if it can't be given. There is nothing to pray for. But yes if you have something specific to pray for, God will find a way. I belive that. God can’t heal emotional pain if people (e.g my daughter’s mother) are purposedly evil in preventing me enjoying her for years. God cannot heal me. I have no doubt He heals others who repent and ask. But if there is nothing to repent and it is another’s evil that preoccupies me and stops me from going forward then where am I left. Pray for what? To get back the years with my daughter taken from me forever? Pray to forget my daughter? Blasphemy against my conscience. Her mother blasphemed her deepest conscience and continues to every minute of the day so I cannot forgive her.
Ask and it shall be given? Not if it can’t be given. There is nothing to pray for.
But yes if you have something specific to pray for, God will find a way. I belive that.

]]> By: Carole http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/2009/09/01/the-london-train-platform-experience/#comment-102 Carole Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:30:01 +0000 http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/?p=683#comment-102 It is heartwarming and encouraging to read these responses on this topic. God has moved His Church, our Nation and the World so many times by Great Awakenings and He will surely do it again very soon. Miracles of Salvation, Healing and Deliverance will be the manifestations of His real movement. We do not need to be angry with God for our unanswered prayers for healing and deliverance, but with ourselves for not pressing forward to obtain the Promise of God through prayer, fasting and fortitude. The Word of our Living God clearly provides the means and method to obtain answers to prayer. It is ourselves we should be angry with, for our own lack of learning God's directives and lack of character in following the example of Jesus. All we need to know is how Jesus Himself performed miracles. He lived a life of purity, fasting, prayer and fellowship with the Father. He was fully knowledgeable of the Scriptures and promises of God and confidently stood his ground against every challenge to the absolute Truth. He was bold and called evil and sickness as they were (Satan's realm) and confidently bound and cast out the enemy on every hand. Let us all challenge ourselves anew to become single-minded in our approach to following the Lord, obeying his Word and standing in prayer for others. Let us commit to living our lives for His glory and use by fasting (even one meal per day), spending quality time with Him alone and in groups, testifying and sharing our faith with others, believing His Word, loving and serving others in order to more fully manifest Jesus Christ as our own resurrected and living Lord. Remember, this Christian Life is best lived in unison with other believers. "One can put a thousand to flight, two can put 10,000." Footnote: If you are the only one in your group interested in moving forward with God, be the leader and example and don't become weary of testing or persecutions, the reward will come by many others joining you to follow Him. It is heartwarming and encouraging to read these responses on this topic. God has moved His Church, our Nation and the World so many times by Great Awakenings and He will surely do it again very soon. Miracles of Salvation, Healing and Deliverance will be the manifestations of His real movement.

We do not need to be angry with God for our unanswered prayers for healing and deliverance, but with ourselves for not pressing forward to obtain the Promise of God through prayer, fasting and fortitude. The Word of our Living God clearly provides the means and method to obtain answers to prayer. It is ourselves we should be angry with, for our own lack of learning God’s directives and lack of character in following the example of Jesus.

All we need to know is how Jesus Himself performed miracles. He lived a life of purity, fasting, prayer and fellowship with the Father. He was fully knowledgeable of the Scriptures and promises of God and confidently stood his ground against every challenge to the absolute Truth. He was bold and called evil and sickness as they were (Satan’s realm) and confidently bound and cast out the enemy on every hand.

Let us all challenge ourselves anew to become single-minded in our approach to following the Lord, obeying his Word and standing in prayer for others. Let us commit to living our lives for His glory and use by fasting (even one meal per day), spending quality time with Him alone and in groups, testifying and sharing our faith with others, believing His Word, loving and serving others in order to more fully manifest Jesus Christ as our own resurrected and living Lord.

Remember, this Christian Life is best lived in unison with other believers. “One can put a thousand to flight, two can put 10,000.”

Footnote: If you are the only one in your group interested in moving forward with God, be the leader and example and don’t become weary of testing or persecutions, the reward will come by many others joining you to follow Him.

]]> By: Baber Rafique http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/2009/09/01/the-london-train-platform-experience/#comment-101 Baber Rafique Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:55:57 +0000 http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/?p=683#comment-101 hi Amy I want to consider some very important words by Jesus Christ on the subject of Prayer. John 15:7 “If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, And it shall be done for you.” Notice immediately the tiny YET ALL important word “IF.” That small word makes the point that getting your prayers answered is conditional. So many people and Christians as well, have believed that prayer is only conditional on the basis that one actually does pray, that is, speaks to God. Once that is accomplished then the onus is on God is to respond either in the positive or the negative. In fact, the bible teaches that the actual act of prayer, speaking to God, is NOT SUFFICIENT in and of itself to guarantee God’s will to be accomplished in your life. Naturally, without the actual act of speaking to God, you have no hope in getting any answer at all but that is simply the start. The Apostle said that there are two conditions to be met. If you’ll meet these two conditions you can ask whatever you will. Notice it says whatever you will. The first is: “if you abide in me.” So you must be in Him before you can abide in Him. How is someone in Him? The way you get into Christ is by being BORN AGAIN. I want you to notice that this is a JESUS term not a modern paraphrase that some church or denomination invented or coined to start some kind of a movement. You recall that Jesus said to Nicodemus, “no one enters the kingdom of God without being born again.“ John 3:1 “There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. 2 This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, ‘Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.’ 3 Jesus answered and said to him, ‘Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.’ 4 Nicodemus said to Him, ‘How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?’ 5 Jesus answered, ‘Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, You must be born again.'” Now consider what the Apostle Paul said to the Corinthian church, 2 Cor 5:17 “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.” So you can see that being born again is being in Christ. Once you get into Christ, you need to stay in good fellowship with Him. The way you stay in good companionship is through the Word of God, feeding or mediating on God’s Word and praying and fellowshipping with the Father. 1 John 1:7 “But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.” Now in John 15:7 "If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. 8 "By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.” Have you noticed that so many of the promises of the Bible are conditional? Even when it comes to being born again there are conditions that have to be met. Faith and Repentance are just simply examples of them. Now thank God His Word gives you the means whereby the conditions can be met. For instance, faith is one of the conditions that has to be met but HE gives you the means whereby faith can be produced. “Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.” Romans 10:17 hi Amy

I want to consider some very important words by Jesus Christ on the subject of Prayer.

John 15:7 “If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, And it shall be done for you.”

Notice immediately the tiny YET ALL important word “IF.” That small word makes the point that getting your prayers answered is conditional. So many people and Christians as well, have believed that prayer is only conditional on the basis that one actually does pray, that is, speaks to God. Once that is accomplished then the onus is on God is to respond either in the positive or the negative.

In fact, the bible teaches that the actual act of prayer, speaking to God, is NOT SUFFICIENT in and of itself to guarantee God’s will to be accomplished in your life. Naturally, without the actual act of speaking to God, you have no hope in getting any answer at all but that is simply the start.

The Apostle said that there are two conditions to be met. If you’ll meet these two conditions you can ask whatever you will. Notice it says whatever you will.

The first is: “if you abide in me.” So you must be in Him before you can abide in Him.

How is someone in Him? The way you get into Christ is by being BORN AGAIN. I want you to notice that this is a JESUS term not a modern paraphrase that some church or denomination invented or coined to start some kind of a movement. You recall that Jesus said to Nicodemus, “no one enters the kingdom of God without being born again.“

John 3:1 “There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. 2 This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, ‘Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.’ 3 Jesus answered and said to him, ‘Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.’ 4 Nicodemus said to Him, ‘How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?’ 5 Jesus answered, ‘Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, You must be born again.’”

Now consider what the Apostle Paul said to the Corinthian church,
2 Cor 5:17 “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.”

So you can see that being born again is being in Christ. Once you get into Christ, you need to stay in good fellowship with Him. The way you stay in good companionship is through the Word of God, feeding or mediating on God’s Word and praying and fellowshipping with the Father.

1 John 1:7 “But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.”

Now in John 15:7 “If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. 8 “By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.”

Have you noticed that so many of the promises of the Bible are conditional? Even when it comes to being born again there are conditions that have to be met. Faith and Repentance are just simply examples of them.

Now thank God His Word gives you the means whereby the conditions can be met. For instance, faith is one of the conditions that has to be met but HE gives you the means whereby faith can be produced. “Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.” Romans 10:17

]]> By: author http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/2009/09/01/the-london-train-platform-experience/#comment-100 author Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:03:15 +0000 http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/?p=683#comment-100 Hi Amy I've re-read my post and I don't see any judgment in it. I said I understand how he got to that place. I have just determined in myself never to go to that place. These are choices that we make in life. I have also had my share of praying for people who have died. I have experienced the bitterness and the tears, after 15 years of ministry now, much more than this guy ever had. Thank God, I have also seen miracles and God's gracious intervention. What are the options you are inferring? Giving up or perhaps blaming God? Or, agreeing with people who blame God for sickness? A thousand times, No! Never. This man was not sick, he burned out from his extreme compassion and his church's failure to prevail in healing. He certainly deserved our compassion, but much more, he deserved the truth. No one will get to vent before God and giving up on your gifts and calling is not to be encouraged. I certainly have sympathy for your own situation. Seek those with a rugged faith for healing and gifts of healing. Avoid those without. I will be happy to pray with and for you if I ever come to your church. Blessings Bay Hi Amy

I’ve re-read my post and I don’t see any judgment in it. I said I understand how he got to that place. I have just determined in myself never to go to that place. These are choices that we make in life. I have also had my share of praying for people who have died. I have experienced the bitterness and the tears, after 15 years of ministry now, much more than this guy ever had. Thank God, I have also seen miracles and God’s gracious intervention.

What are the options you are inferring? Giving up or perhaps blaming God? Or, agreeing with people who blame God for sickness? A thousand times, No! Never. This man was not sick, he burned out from his extreme compassion and his church’s failure to prevail in healing. He certainly deserved our compassion, but much more, he deserved the truth. No one will get to vent before God and giving up on your gifts and calling is not to be encouraged.

I certainly have sympathy for your own situation. Seek those with a rugged faith for healing and gifts of healing. Avoid those without. I will be happy to pray with and for you if I ever come to your church.

Blessings
Bay

]]> By: Amy http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/2009/09/01/the-london-train-platform-experience/#comment-99 Amy Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:43:34 +0000 http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/?p=683#comment-99 you're judging this guy for giving up but you never sought to understand his side. you never asked about his perspective or experience and you obviously don't know what its like. I do. I've suffered for 10 years with intense pain and major damage to my body. I have done everything the bible says about healing and nothing good has happened. just have gotten worse. more and more suffering as time goes on. if you don't know what that's like, then you can't possibly understand this man at the bus stop. you say you will never give up, but I'm sure that's what that man you talked to once thought also or else he wouldn't have received the gift of tongues. have some compassion for that guy. don't judge him. pray for him. weep for him. lose your pride and try to see what its like to be him. when Jesus looked out over Jerusalem he weeped. Be like that. you can't imagine the turmoil and pain this man is in. do you know what it is like to pray for those you love and have them die, repeatedly over and over for this to happen to you? I do. you read the bible and it tells you promises, you do it, and nothing happens. that's why this man lost his faith. Because the one he loved, the one he counted on let him down. Its disappointing to read your story here about how you handled this situation. how about, "I can't imagine what he must be going through. it breaks my heart to see this. so I prayed for him right then." lose the pride and judgment. get some compassion. you'll be better off. you’re judging this guy for giving up but you never sought to understand his side. you never asked about his perspective or experience and you obviously don’t know what its like. I do. I’ve suffered for 10 years with intense pain and major damage to my body. I have done everything the bible says about healing and nothing good has happened. just have gotten worse. more and more suffering as time goes on. if you don’t know what that’s like, then you can’t possibly understand this man at the bus stop. you say you will never give up, but I’m sure that’s what that man you talked to once thought also or else he wouldn’t have received the gift of tongues. have some compassion for that guy. don’t judge him. pray for him. weep for him. lose your pride and try to see what its like to be him. when Jesus looked out over Jerusalem he weeped. Be like that. you can’t imagine the turmoil and pain this man is in. do you know what it is like to pray for those you love and have them die, repeatedly over and over for this to happen to you? I do. you read the bible and it tells you promises, you do it, and nothing happens. that’s why this man lost his faith. Because the one he loved, the one he counted on let him down. Its disappointing to read your story here about how you handled this situation. how about, “I can’t imagine what he must be going through. it breaks my heart to see this. so I prayed for him right then.” lose the pride and judgment. get some compassion. you’ll be better off.

]]> By: Steve http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/2009/09/01/the-london-train-platform-experience/#comment-98 Steve Fri, 28 May 2010 16:57:05 +0000 http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/?p=683#comment-98 If a man obey's my teaching I and the Father will come and live with him. Baptism in the Spirit. If you believe in the one who he sent you will do greater things. Healing. Sometimes I believe its simply a child like faith on Jesus bridging the divide between man and God that brings down the power. Its so simple, we miss it when we attempt to heal ourselves. Jesus is the Father's will revealed. Faith in Jesus is what gives us the righteousness to access the power of the Father to heal. We miss this when we try to heal the sick. Its all in what Jesus did, and we have to accept it like salvation - an unmerited gift. Get this wrong and the power won't flow. Jesus and what he did on the cross is what bridges the divide between God and man. Nothing else does. If a man obey’s my teaching I and the Father will come and live with him. Baptism in the Spirit.

If you believe in the one who he sent you will do greater things. Healing.

Sometimes I believe its simply a child like faith on Jesus bridging the divide between man and God that brings down the power. Its so simple, we miss it when we attempt to heal ourselves. Jesus is the Father’s will revealed. Faith in Jesus is what gives us the righteousness to access the power of the Father to heal. We miss this when we try to heal the sick. Its all in what Jesus did, and we have to accept it like salvation – an unmerited gift. Get this wrong and the power won’t flow. Jesus and what he did on the cross is what bridges the divide between God and man. Nothing else does.

]]> By: WILLIAM STEWARD http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/2009/09/01/the-london-train-platform-experience/#comment-97 WILLIAM STEWARD Sun, 25 Apr 2010 20:31:34 +0000 http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/?p=683#comment-97 I LOVE THE LORD AND WILL NEVER GIVE UP ON HEALING BECAUSE OF ONE,S BAD EXPERIENCE. I HAVE BEEN PRAYING FOR THE HEALING WITHIN MY FAMILY,S RELATIONSHIP ONE TO THE OTHER. IT WAS BECAUSE OF ME THE FATHER THE PROBLEM WAS STARTED. I BACKSLID AND DID SOME HORRIBLE THINGS. I KNOW THE LORD HAS FORGIVEN ME NOW I NEED FORGIVENESS FROM MY CHILDREN. I LOVE THE LORD AND WILL NEVER GIVE UP ON HEALING BECAUSE OF ONE,S BAD EXPERIENCE. I HAVE BEEN PRAYING FOR THE HEALING WITHIN MY FAMILY,S RELATIONSHIP ONE TO THE OTHER. IT WAS BECAUSE OF ME THE FATHER THE PROBLEM WAS STARTED. I BACKSLID AND DID SOME HORRIBLE THINGS. I KNOW THE LORD HAS FORGIVEN ME NOW I NEED FORGIVENESS FROM MY CHILDREN.

]]> By: Antony http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/2009/09/01/the-london-train-platform-experience/#comment-96 Antony Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:40:35 +0000 http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/?p=683#comment-96 Healing - a lot has to be right 1) Had all who were sick been delivered that would be a good foundation to defeat the sickness 2) The nature of the sickness gives us a clue as to the nature of the sin, so you have to attack the sin - be guided by the holy spirit on how to do this. 3) It doesn't have to be their sin - it can be the sin of the fathers or the grandfathers or their grandfathers father or the sin of people who have associated with them 4) Sickness can serve Gods purpose - as in Job. 5) You always have to ask if it's Gods will that they be healed 6) I know others who have rejected God as a consequence of failed healing - it always comes from the ego and taking ownership of the healing - he heals not you - so if someone isn't healed you must not crucify yourself. There is only room for one on the cross. 7) Your own sin can be a barrier to healing - make sure you are in a good place before God - pride is how sin entered Gods perfect universe Healing – a lot has to be right
1) Had all who were sick been delivered that would be a good foundation to defeat the sickness
2) The nature of the sickness gives us a clue as to the nature of the sin, so you have to attack the sin – be guided by the holy spirit on how to do this.
3) It doesn’t have to be their sin – it can be the sin of the fathers or the grandfathers or their grandfathers father or the sin of people who have associated with them
4) Sickness can serve Gods purpose – as in Job.
5) You always have to ask if it’s Gods will that they be healed
6) I know others who have rejected God as a consequence of failed healing – it always comes from the ego and taking ownership of the healing – he heals not you – so if someone isn’t healed you must not crucify yourself. There is only room for one on the cross.
7) Your own sin can be a barrier to healing – make sure you are in a good place before God – pride is how sin entered Gods perfect universe

]]> By: Will http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/2009/09/01/the-london-train-platform-experience/#comment-95 Will Fri, 02 Apr 2010 03:47:52 +0000 http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/?p=683#comment-95 Thank You Andy, Jesus is coming soon, We need to help others understand the gifts of the Holly spirit, I am learning, again thank You, God Blessed Us, let us Put on the full armor and do His will for his glory Amen !!! Thank You Andy, Jesus is coming soon, We need to help others understand the gifts of the Holly spirit, I am learning, again thank You,
God Blessed Us, let us Put on the full armor and do His will for his glory Amen !!!

]]> By: Andy http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/2009/09/01/the-london-train-platform-experience/#comment-94 Andy Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:42:16 +0000 http://www.christianhealingtoday.com/?p=683#comment-94 If a man obey's my teaching I and the Father will come and live with him. Baptism in the Spirit. If you believe in the one who he sent you will do greater things. Healing. Sometimes I believe its simply a child like faith on Jesus bridging the divide between man and God that brings down the power. Its so simple, we miss it when we attempt to heal ourselves. Jesus is the Father's will revealed. Faith in Jesus is what gives us the righteousness to access the power of the Father to heal. We miss this when we try to heal the sick. Its all in what Jesus did, and we have to accept it like salvation - an unmerited gift. Get this wrong and the power won't flow. Jesus and what he did on the cross is what bridges the divide between God and man. Nothing else does. If a man obey’s my teaching I and the Father will come and live with him. Baptism in the Spirit.

If you believe in the one who he sent you will do greater things. Healing.

Sometimes I believe its simply a child like faith on Jesus bridging the divide between man and God that brings down the power. Its so simple, we miss it when we attempt to heal ourselves. Jesus is the Father’s will revealed. Faith in Jesus is what gives us the righteousness to access the power of the Father to heal. We miss this when we try to heal the sick. Its all in what Jesus did, and we have to accept it like salvation – an unmerited gift. Get this wrong and the power won’t flow. Jesus and what he did on the cross is what bridges the divide between God and man. Nothing else does.

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